tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post723412951043854364..comments2024-02-21T05:16:22.788-05:00Comments on Two Weeks Notice: A Latin American Politics Blog: Support for Zelaya in HondurasGreg Weekshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15765114859595124082noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-19330792749603577632009-07-22T03:14:03.396-04:002009-07-22T03:14:03.396-04:00thanks for sharing.......
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Sha...thanks for sharing.......<br /><br />___________________<br />Sharon<br /><a href="http://www.directstartv.com/jump.html?referID=oa-0-173189" rel="nofollow">The only Satellite Television Delivers the Best Value in Entertainment</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-69804256671881792292009-07-16T22:24:32.508-04:002009-07-16T22:24:32.508-04:00How are these polls conducted? If they are phone ...How are these polls conducted? If they are phone polls they have little validity since they'd be biased towards the middle and upper classes. If they're mainly conducted in urban areas, they'd still be biased against the majority of Hondurans who live in remote rural areas. A non-biased poll of the Honduran population would have to send pollsters out to rough it in small mountain hamlets.el callaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01322949005447541283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-61299603990912809322009-07-16T18:01:55.958-04:002009-07-16T18:01:55.958-04:00Boz has been here numerous times--go back to my or...Boz has been here numerous times--go back to my original post and see his comments about it.Greg Weekshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15765114859595124082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-51201942540368957712009-07-16T17:58:59.585-04:002009-07-16T17:58:59.585-04:00Due to the difference of reporting of the poll - f...Due to the difference of reporting of the poll - from both sides - I did a little research and found a blog that has obtained the questions and the raw data. To be fair I'm providing you a quote and the link to the blog itself:<br /><br />"...now having the full data: If this poll is accurate, there are (or were last week) 40% of Hondurans strongly in favor of the removal of Zelaya, 30% of Hondurans who strongly support Zelaya and 30% who have a nuanced view, disliking Zelaya but also disagreeing with or not comfortable with the coup and the Micheletti government."<br /><br />For an update of the poll see:<br /><br />http://www.bloggingsbyboz.com/2009/07/poll-numbers-divided-in-honduras.htmlHonduCanadianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15341743650156225498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-18597827570474602172009-07-16T16:36:50.346-04:002009-07-16T16:36:50.346-04:00The article that Greg links to above gives a compr...The article that Greg links to above gives a comprehensive breakdown of CID-Gallup's results. La Prensa, on the other hand, chose to misrepresent the results by selectively focusing on people's responses to only one obscure question about whether the non-binding referendum justified the coup. <br /><br />In reality, the data is very clear that a plurality of respondents oppose the coup.Justin Delacourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01343303383195336825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-71645468804651486022009-07-16T14:46:05.383-04:002009-07-16T14:46:05.383-04:00"You might want to consider reading CID-Gallu..."You might want to consider reading CID-Gallup's actual report rather than relying on La Prensa."<br /><br />Btw, where is these report?<br /><br />It was published somewhere?Miguel Madeirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07382939732567489809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-48650971532613364162009-07-16T13:41:37.397-04:002009-07-16T13:41:37.397-04:00Your report of the Gallup poll is incorrect. The r...<i>Your report of the Gallup poll is incorrect. The results were 46% happy Zelaya is gone, 28% against the coup, the rest did not answer.</i><br /><br />No, the actual results were that 46% opposed Zelaya's ouster and 41% supported it. You might want to consider reading CID-Gallup's actual report rather than relying on La Prensa.Justin Delacourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01343303383195336825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-51589367967317490032009-07-16T08:45:45.397-04:002009-07-16T08:45:45.397-04:00Your report of the Gallup poll is incorrect. The r...Your report of the Gallup poll is incorrect. The results were 46% happy Zelaya is gone, 28% against the coup, the rest did not answer.HonduCanadianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15341743650156225498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-19771728596364689782009-07-16T01:44:21.401-04:002009-07-16T01:44:21.401-04:00I think the new government got rid of the curfew, ...<i> I think the new government got rid of the curfew, no? Things seem to be calming down.</i><br /><br />Nope. Curfew is <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8153128.stm" rel="nofollow">back.</a> Plus there were thousands in the street today and it got pretty <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jAkMGKIUDg_ngUiZboxQbYj5_DPwD99F8FS00" rel="nofollow">ugly:</a><br /><br /><i>Labor leader Israel Salinas, one of the main figures in the pro-Zelaya movement, told thousands of demonstrators who marched through the capital that workers at state-owned companies plan walkouts later this week.<br /><br />He said protest organizers were talking with union leaders at private companies to see if they could mount a general strike against Micheletti. Salinas also said sympathetic unions in neighboring Nicaragua and El Salvador would try to block border crossings later this week "in solidarity with our struggle."<br /><br />At the five-hour protest, tempers were high. Demonstrators threw rocks at a government building that houses the country's womens institute. Police showed up but no injuries were reported.</i><br /><br />And I swear, I did not read this Micheletti statement before I made my comments above. Maybe I am in the wrong business :)<br /><br /><i>Mr Micheletti told reporters he would be prepared to make the move for "peace and tranquility" in Honduras.</i>leftsidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00676827005815770066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-78181547205952980982009-07-15T23:00:52.019-04:002009-07-15T23:00:52.019-04:00The usurpers plan (crafted by Clinton's buddie...The usurpers plan (crafted by Clinton's buddies) appears to be to throw out a bunch of crap "offers" so they appear to be the practical one's "dialoging" in earnest. Their only hope is to paint Zelaya as a nut like Ahmadinejad (crossed with Noriega) and convince the US that keeping him away is for the sake of peace and tranquility. This is a massive criminal conspiracy to rob the people from their vote that has united the world against it. I'm pretty sure if this was Peru and the General was a fan of Hugo Chavez, the US and others would find a way to make it intolerable. They would not "negotiate" with his representative and they would not be amused by an idea to substitute one golpista with another.leftsidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00676827005815770066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-52825222012594937062009-07-15T22:07:26.315-04:002009-07-15T22:07:26.315-04:00Micheletti sees the writing on the wall at least f...Micheletti sees the writing on the wall at least for himself: BBC says<br /><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8153128.stm" rel="nofollow">Honduran leader 'could step down'</a>Abby Kelleyitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06510968255983729033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-46425047994931373482009-07-15T22:02:13.497-04:002009-07-15T22:02:13.497-04:00Tabs, "calming down"--that's a bit o...Tabs, "calming down"--that's a bit of wishful thinking, and it reminds me of Third Reich toadies comforting themselves before the reckoning.<br /><br />I only wish that you would be in Honduras for the nomen of liberation. This event has been a valuable teaching moment for the people of Honduras, word. <br /><br />You are living in the times of slave revolt. Check your weapons, stoke the fire, ride!Slave Revoltnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-68664685730160211772009-07-15T21:46:58.597-04:002009-07-15T21:46:58.597-04:00I think the new government got rid of the curfew, ...I think the new government got rid of the curfew, no? Things seem to be calming down.Gabrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07170544582490033719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-43686694321783110842009-07-15T21:43:23.765-04:002009-07-15T21:43:23.765-04:00In a representative democracy it's the institu...<i>In a representative democracy it's the institutions that matter.</i><br /><br />Yes, that matters, but it also matters what the people think because the people elect the representatives and they can also make a lot of havoc on the streets and in their workplaces. <br /><br />The fact that Micheletti has such a poor approval rating should be of concern to you.Justin Delacourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01343303383195336825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-314871816600946122009-07-15T21:36:19.646-04:002009-07-15T21:36:19.646-04:00In a representative democracy it's the institu...In a representative democracy it's the institutions that matter.Gabrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07170544582490033719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-83617763787032822292009-07-15T21:04:24.397-04:002009-07-15T21:04:24.397-04:00Technically they do have a majority.
Not a majori...<i>Technically they do have a majority.</i><br /><br />Not a majority of the Honduran people, Gabriel. And in a democracy, that happens to be important.Justin Delacourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01343303383195336825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-57325434709872188292009-07-15T19:50:15.574-04:002009-07-15T19:50:15.574-04:00Indeed, it is entirely likely that this is because...<i>Indeed, it is entirely likely that this is because of the coup. Zelaya's treatment garners him sympathy.</i><br /><br />I would not doubt that may be true in some cases, but the article points out that 4 months ago the favorable-unfavorable difference was 4% to Zelaya's upside. Now it is 2% (46% to 44%). I would think there is tremendous pressure in society now to condemn Zelaya from bosses and elites in society. This is working against any synpathy he's getting. I think the huge confusion on the coup is what is really amazing about this poll - 31% saying they don't know whether his removal was jusified. This is why the media is being censored and the pro-coup propoganda is incessant.leftsidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00676827005815770066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-18446369634073140172009-07-15T19:15:48.916-04:002009-07-15T19:15:48.916-04:00Technically they do have a majority. It's in C...Technically they do have a majority. It's in Congress and the Supreme Court. And the support of the Attorney General.Gabrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07170544582490033719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-47071798753885799432009-07-15T18:28:44.556-04:002009-07-15T18:28:44.556-04:00I guess this throws a kink in the popularly-parrot...I guess this throws a kink in the popularly-parroted narrative that the deposition of Zelaya was somehow done for the "protection of democracy." Aside from the fact legal mechanisms were bypassed, the public doesn't even support it anymore!<br /><br />Thanks for posting. Just visiting the blog for the first time, and it seems to be one of the better resources on the Honduran coup.Clinthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12371607004710326604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21674624.post-45456711989675110862009-07-15T18:27:41.036-04:002009-07-15T18:27:41.036-04:00Is Gallup ever going to simply put this out public...Is Gallup ever going to simply put this out publicly?Doug Zylstrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03023935711242140793noreply@blogger.com