Tuesday, April 29, 2008

Primaries in Charlotte

The campaigns in NC are all over the place now. We’ve received about three robo-calls from each side, though Obama himself wasn't in any of them (his wife was in one, and others were just staff members).

Governor Mike Easley has now endorsed Clinton, but since he’s a largely invisible governor and I am willing to bet many voters (especially newly registered ones, of which there are many in the state) have never heard of him, I can’t see that mattering very much. She needs a boost, as a recent poll has her behind 52%-42% (with 4% unsure and 2% other, and a 4% margin of error).

Early voting has already begun here, and I had planned to go yesterday. With the baby’s arrival that did not happen…

21 comments:

Justin Delacour 6:57 PM  

Well, I guess we know who you're supporting. I held out my hopes that her gutter politics would eventually turn you off, but I should have known better.

Congratulations on the newborn, though.

Greg Weeks 8:17 PM  

What about this post has anything to do with who I am supporting?

Justin Delacour 10:08 PM  

Come on, Greg. The "she needs a boost" bit is a dead giveaway.

We know you love the Clintons. You've already said so.

Greg Weeks 6:16 AM  

Please continue the analysis. It is always interesting to see someone who is both confident of their argument and totally wrong.

If you are down 10% with only a few days to go, and your state endorsement is worth next to nothing, you need a boost.

Justin Delacour 8:44 AM  

If I'm wrong, tell us who you're voting for, Greg. Pretty simple.

Are you saying that you don't love the Clintons? That's not what you were saying a couple months ago when you told us what a wonderful legacy Bill left us.

Greg Weeks 9:44 AM  

I haven't voted yet, but will vote for Obama, which I decided to do quite a long time ago. I never wrote anything about "loving the Clintons" or a "wonderful legacy." The only thing I can remember writing is that Bill Clinton's foreign policy toward Latin America seems better in retrospect because Bush's has been so disastrous. I don't really see anything "loving" or "wonderful" in such an assessment.

boz 9:50 AM  

He's attempting to get a PhD by analyzing discourse, but he can't even get this right. It's pretty telling.

Greg Weeks 10:01 AM  

In fact, I agree with quite a bit Justin has argued about Hillary Clinton.

boz 10:08 AM  

In fact, I agree with quite a bit Justin has argued about Hillary Clinton.

But Greg, you must be wrong. Justin's discourse analysis says it "is a dead giveaway" that you "love the Clintons."

Greg Weeks 10:17 AM  

I actually just searched my own blog for "Clinton" and didn't come up with anything too positive, especially vis-a-vis Obama. I will await the loving and wonderful quotes that I must be missing.

Given the blog's topic, I've focused on the candidates mostly in terms of Latin America, except when the campaigns actually came to Charlotte, so I have not worn my choice on my sleeve. For the record, however, there are a number of things I don't like about Hillary Clinton, but I think she would be less bad than McCain, so I would vote for her in November if she wins the nomination.

Once we have a nominee, then I (like many others, I suspect) will write about that person's likely stance toward Latin America. Clinton's would be much less positive than Obama's, at least based on their statements (and if you do a Clinton search on this blog, you can see some examples).

Justin Delacour 10:40 AM  

I actually just searched my own blog for "Clinton" and didn't come up with anything too positive

Well, that's not quite true, Greg, but I'm glad to see you're voting for Obama. I stand corrected on that score, but not on the score of your admiration for at least one of the Clintons.

Allow me to quote from your review of David Scott Palmer's book:

over time I think he [Clinton] will come out looking fairly positive.

You didn't put that statement into relative terms, as if to say that Clinton's policies were merely preferable to Bush's (a statment I could concur with). You put the statement in general terms, as if Clinton's policies were positive in some absolute sense (which I do not agree with at all).

Glad to see that you're voting for Obama, though.

Anonymous,  1:24 PM  

You mean none of you are supporting McCain? What's next, are we going to see someone try to criticize Ronald Reagan?

I love visiting this blog because it allows me to hear opinions I never hear in daily life.

Anonymous,  1:25 PM  

In case you were wondering, I am also a big Kissinger supporter.

boz 6:04 PM  

You mean none of you are supporting McCain?

I've supported Obama since sometime in 2003. He's going to be a great president.

Tambopaxi 4:13 AM  

Boz, Agree with your last point. Obama's going to be excellent President and I'm voting for him.

Justin, I know you don't like Hillary (me neither), but I don't recall that you've said that you're voting for Obama. Are you voting for him, or is it Nader this year?

Justin Delacour 2:10 PM  

Justin, I know you don't like Hillary (me neither), but I don't recall that you've said that you're voting for Obama.

I already voted for Obama in the New Mexico primary, and of course I'd vote for him in a general election. I think you know this already. The only scenario in which I would vote for Nader is if Hillary won the Democratic nomination. In that case, I would vote for Nader because, in my view, defeating the Clinton dynasty is every bit as important as defeating McCain. Fuck the Clintons.

Justin Delacour 2:30 PM  

I've supported Obama since sometime in 2003. He's going to be a great president.

Here's Boz, politicking as usual. Unfortunately, the hack never quite figures out that politicking and genuine political analysis are two separate endeavors. That's the problem with hacks. Their "analysis" is always littered with their politicking, which has nothing to do with serious analysis.

Truth be told, Obama is not in good shape right now, however much I wish he was. Let's be honest. To go out losing more than half of the last 10 state contests before being nominated is hardly a propitious sign. But don't expect Boz --in the midst of his usual politicking-- to tell you so.

boz 9:12 PM  

Obama is doing fine. He's got the nomination virtually locked up and he's positioning himself well for November. The stuff in the media right now is background noise and the only real question is how long until Hillary drops out. May, June and July is for organization. Campaign starts in full at the convention and in September. Polls and media start mattering again then.

Justin Delacour 12:28 PM  

Pure politicking, Boz. That's all you know how to do. You can't possibly be serious in suggesting that Obama's poor showings of late are not ominous. If Hillary can still take away most of the Democrats' votes in many states, you can be damned sure that McCain is going to take away a ton of the independents. Try pulling your head out of campaign mode for a second, Boz. The signs are not good.

boz 8:05 AM  

The signs are not good.

We can revisit it when Obama is elected. I think McCain is a tough opponent, but I really am optimistic. It's not just campaigning.

Anonymous,  6:48 PM  

Boz,

Given Justin's recent track record, you have no need to worry.

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