Tuesday, March 09, 2010

Honduran politics

Porfirio Lobo is mad that Mel Zelaya says bad things about Honduran politics.  I guess his complaint would go something like this:

Our military overthrew a democratically elected government, then the police killed a bunch of people, a coup government then did its best to bankrupt the country, the Congress faked a resignation letter, everybody lied about being willing to negotiate, the Supreme Court allowed violations of the constitution, and we all made a mockery of both horizontal and vertical accountability to make sure everyone stays poor.  So why would Zelaya say bad things about us?  As Robert Micheletti said last year, we're all just happy people!


Anonymous,  10:53 AM  

Zelaya is rapidly becoming like the crazy aunt everyone just wishes would go away. And now 100% paid for by Chavez!

Mike 3:10 PM  

I was also told that drug traffickers rediverted their transit routes through Honduras in 2009 to take advantage of the political instability.

Justin Delacour 9:50 PM  

Zelaya is rapidly becoming like the crazy aunt everyone just wishes would go away.

I think the Honduran opposition wishes that the repression and the death squad types would go away, but that's probably not very likely under Pepe Lobo.

Anonymous,  10:51 AM  

Who cares about the Honduran opposition? They supported a president that was trying to become a quasi-dictator, like Ortega and Chavez.

The radical left needs to understand that Latin America is leaving them behind.

Justin Delacour 12:20 PM  

Who cares about the Honduran opposition?

Oh, okay. So brutal repression against a political opposition is a-okay if it's a left opposition. This is a fascinating new democratic standard.

Anonymous,  7:20 PM  

The left in Honduras wanted to stage a coup. Luckily they were stopped.

The tide is turning.

Justin Delacour 8:25 PM  

The tide is turning.

If extra-legal overthrows of democratically elected governments are the means by which you would like to see the turning of the tide, you ought to at least consider the bloody implications of what you preach.

Joseph 9:02 PM  

Living in Honduras has really twisted my opinions in every direction since late June 2009.

At first, the "bad guy" was clearly Zelaya, who I find to be a politician of idealogical convenience more than any sort of Marxist "For the People" type.

Then the "bad guy" was clearly Micheletti, who apparently could care less about the Constitution when it doesn't support his views.

The truth of the situation, I think, is that there really isn't anyone to root for here. But the difference for a lot of poorer Hondurans is that Mel put Honduras on the world map, albeit briefly, and that's only helped to further his status with many here.

And in spite of all the political unrest which he was key in creating, now he has a cushy job with Venezuela's PetroCaribe. What would he be doing now if he had resigned from the Presidency quietly? What does Maduro do with his free time now?

Anonymous,  10:30 PM  

It wasn't extra-legal. That's just another leftwing myth. The courts spoke. Accept it.

Justin Delacour 11:50 PM  

The courts spoke.

As I've already explained to you, Gabriel, laws exists independently of courts. If a court simply sets the law aside to support a coup, it itself is operating in an extra-legal manner. And that's exactly what happened in Honduras.

Anonymous,  11:54 PM  

Not sure who you are talking to. You can hardly get out of school and you want to give Hondurans lessons in law?

Left wing loonies are losing all over Latin America. Let's be grateful for that.

There was nothing extra-legal about it, other than in your mind. Since you are not part of Honduras' courts, what you think has no importance.

Justin Delacour 1:26 AM  

You can hardly get out of school and you want to give Hondurans lessons in law?

Actually, Honduras' coup government was so bold-faced in its violations of Honduran law that one wouldn't even need to go to school to understand this. I mean, think about it, fella. They wisked Zelaya out of the country in explicit violation of the law, and then they turned right around and issued a request to Interpol that Zelaya be arrested abroad and brought back to justice in Honduras.

Total circus.

Now, if that's not a regime that was operating outside the rule of law, I don't know what is.

Anonymous,  9:06 AM  

The courts spoke. You need to accept that.

Joseph 11:28 PM  

Let's not sit around and pretend the courts wouldn't have whitewashed over just about anything the interim gov't did.

Neither Mel nor the Golpistas holds "democracy" as their highest value, in reality. I suspect few people in power truly do.

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